tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3859669.post8424395245323521668..comments2024-01-27T01:29:47.634-05:00Comments on ~Tails from the Foster Kittens~: Jack, Orbax and an excessively dismissive vet.. Connie - Tails from the Foster Kittenshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01127077337743262149noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3859669.post-6281992464995585352018-06-19T07:00:26.563-04:002018-06-19T07:00:26.563-04:00It wasn't so much an issue with the medication...It wasn't so much an issue with the medication, it was that I knew nothing about it and the vet was not happy that I was asking questions. I still don't understand this about some vets, they want you to follow them blindly and not ask questions. I would think they would prefer informed customers.. <br />Connie - Tails from the Foster Kittenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01127077337743262149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3859669.post-62471103238197833512018-06-18T18:08:12.246-04:002018-06-18T18:08:12.246-04:00I know I am new here but I wanted to say something...I know I am new here but I wanted to say something that might help. First of all I totally understand about needing a vet or a human doctor that will listen to you. Most of them will not and you have to advocate whether for humans or animals. I took care of my mom after her stroke and I had to constantly be aware and ask questions. One of her doctor said if you ever get a doctor that won't listen to you get another doctor. Luckily my vet is excellent however some of the other vets there are not.<br />However what I wanted to say is my cat has taken orbax numerous times since 2014. Even one time when he was peeing straight blood. It works amazingly fast and he has never had a side effect unlike Clavamox and other medications. I'm not saying everyone's cat would be the same but this is a very good antibiotic that covers various areas of the body very quickly. That helps if they are not quite sure what is going on as it's going to cover just about everything. I am all for researching any medicine that is prescribed for a human or for an animal but I will say with this one it has been very good and I have not had any problems. In fact I requested it. The emergency vet initially prescribed it years ago s and when I need something for severe infection again I ask for it. It is once a day though and I give mine the liquid because that is the one that has the malt flavor that masks the taste the pills are very bitter. That may be where the confusion has come in. I don't think your vet was wrong in prescribing it however only in his interaction with you. I wish human and veterinarian medicine was not so combative. People are upset enough without having to fight with the doctors and or the veterinarians.. they should all work together for the good of the person or the animal. Most times that only happens in Bizarro world. But I am lucky at least my vet is good but if she retires then I will be really upset because most of them are not like her<br />I hope this is helpful about the medication.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3859669.post-49630318902567557162013-12-29T14:20:48.334-05:002013-12-29T14:20:48.334-05:00Poor you ! We hope Jack gets well soon, and that y...Poor you ! We hope Jack gets well soon, and that you find a better V-E-T ! PurrsThe Swiss Catshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13252977204473056970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3859669.post-70617863125052741312013-12-23T12:41:50.986-05:002013-12-23T12:41:50.986-05:00Hope Jack gets well soon!xx RachelHope Jack gets well soon!xx RachelLittle Miss Titchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08456038281813066947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3859669.post-39597287461161607502013-12-23T12:41:19.706-05:002013-12-23T12:41:19.706-05:00I'm just glad I have got a good vet,xxI'm just glad I have got a good vet,xxLittle Miss Titchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08456038281813066947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3859669.post-37213742747889910812013-12-20T20:13:51.874-05:002013-12-20T20:13:51.874-05:00Oh dear. I haven't heard of this med, but I am...Oh dear. I haven't heard of this med, but I am so sorry you [and Jack] are going through all this!!Ann Boyajianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07735985924779427686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3859669.post-54065869132655513892013-12-19T12:43:00.136-05:002013-12-19T12:43:00.136-05:00Purring Jack gets better fast! And good for you fo...Purring Jack gets better fast! And good for you for telling that jerky vet off!Quill and Greysonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14625138189901613239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3859669.post-32788853357217455532013-12-19T08:32:36.536-05:002013-12-19T08:32:36.536-05:00I get all this too, even without your years and le...I get all this too, even without your years and level of research and experience. I've learned to do my own research first as well, and dig my heels in and stick to my guns.<br /><br />But there's not one vet I'd trust implicitly.<br /><br />I've not been to my new clinic long enough to say how things will go, but when I switched, I wrote up a list of demands (essentially that's what it was, though couched in better terms): things like no Convenia ever, no Metacam, how I wanted end-of-life dealt with, diet and homeopathic options for chronic issues FIRST, before pharmaceuticals, etc. The vet they gave me is fresh out of college, graduated in April 2013. I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing. LOL. I must say, though, that she DOES consult with the other more experienced vets there.<br /><br />Anyway, here's hoping that Jack heals quickly, that you can find a vet who will be open to your preferences, etc. Lots of hugs and Light to you both.Fuzzy Taleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09505853082591216696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3859669.post-52039130478880261222013-12-19T08:10:25.522-05:002013-12-19T08:10:25.522-05:00Well, I would ditch that vet too! My vet of 15 ye...Well, I would ditch that vet too! My vet of 15 years is retiring, and I'm going to try going to the other doctor in the practice that I like the best. All of my cats have their own personal complications so I hate to move them at this point, but I guess my next batch could try another vet if this doesn't work out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3859669.post-54824861350197475242013-12-19T06:14:14.721-05:002013-12-19T06:14:14.721-05:00My vet just started my Nathan kitty on Orbax. He h...My vet just started my Nathan kitty on Orbax. He has already had his teeth extracted due to severe stomatitis but it never cleared up. We've tried several other antibiotics and cortisone shots have helped in the past but not as much lately so we are trying the Orbax now. So far I can tell he is getting more relief and was actually playing yesterday which I haven't seen him do in a long time so I know he feels better too. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12312860408539984806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3859669.post-35680318395858959212013-12-19T06:01:10.812-05:002013-12-19T06:01:10.812-05:00My vet just started my Nathan kitty on Orbax. He h...My vet just started my Nathan kitty on Orbax. He has already had his teeth extracted due to severe stomatitis but it never cleared up. We've tried several other antibiotics and cortisone shots have helped in the past but not as much lately so we are trying the Orbax now. So far I can tell he is getting more relief and was actually playing yesterday which I haven't seen him do in a long time so I know he feels better too. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12312860408539984806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3859669.post-54350122360094976012013-12-19T02:38:54.470-05:002013-12-19T02:38:54.470-05:00So glad that Jack is back home with you but that i...So glad that Jack is back home with you but that is awful that they sent him home like that for sure. I know...it's so hard sometimes with Vet care, deciding what the right course of action/medication is, finding a Vet that is caring and understanding when you are emotional or have concerns...Clooneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04030636136547727914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3859669.post-48290565464207936782013-12-19T02:28:29.299-05:002013-12-19T02:28:29.299-05:00That is SO frustrating! My human says that human d...That is SO frustrating! My human says that human doctors aren't really much better, and she never goes to them. We still have not found a vet she is happy with for me and my roommates. I'm sorry you and Jack had such a bad experience with this one, especially since you were out of town for part of this ordeal.Summer at sparklecat.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06624833066564341341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3859669.post-19719137691935643862013-12-18T19:45:12.317-05:002013-12-18T19:45:12.317-05:00Poor Jack...and poor you too having to deal with t...Poor Jack...and poor you too having to deal with this. I hope Jack gets over his illness soon and the vet does the honorable thing and retires!Sakuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11508656442667275102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3859669.post-58431037796167894642013-12-18T13:26:00.418-05:002013-12-18T13:26:00.418-05:00apparently after 30 years this guy needs to retire...apparently after 30 years this guy needs to retire. ugh..... from beginning to end this was a disaster - to Jack getting sick while you were gone to a conversation with a stupid person. makes me feel very lucky that my regular vet and our rescue vet are so wonderful. though having dealt with er vets before, I get the frustration...Random Felineshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02591546634183113556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3859669.post-79580954614505858202013-12-18T10:26:13.068-05:002013-12-18T10:26:13.068-05:00SO frustrating. I have been going to the same vet...SO frustrating. I have been going to the same vet for the past 15 years and I have him perfectly trained. He is always prepared for my questions and knows never to prescribe something without letting me know all of the options. I think it helps that he's very open-minded and loves our conversations. I wish they were all like my vet but unfortunately I know that isn't true. Purrs that Jack feels better soon!The Monkeyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11850353509683423356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3859669.post-63441655353939413162013-12-18T09:55:08.286-05:002013-12-18T09:55:08.286-05:00I think I know the vet you're referring to. I ...I think I know the vet you're referring to. I took Bella to that particular emergency clinic when she started the day with projectile vomiting and then started having trouble breathing -- I was afraid she'd aspirated some of the vomit. The first thing he did when he got into the exam room was give her an emetic, and she promptly puked the rest of her breakfast on the floor. He then gave her a quick examination, took her in the back and gave her an anti-anxiety medicine because apparently the vomiting had created a panic reaction, said she was OK and to engage in "watchful waiting."<br /><br />I'm glad to say that my other experiences with the vets in that clinic (during Dahlia's brief illness last year) were much more productive, the vets actually listened, and they did a great job saving Dahlia's life when I first brought her in. I had to take her to that clinic to have her released from her suffering because it happened WAY after hours, and the vet who did the procedure was very compassionate and kind.<br /><br />But yeah, it always sucks to get a vet who seems to brush off your concerns and doesn't really explain why a certain drug is given or listen to you.JaneA Kelleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02598035258863999517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3859669.post-24344264448564508632013-12-18T09:22:26.565-05:002013-12-18T09:22:26.565-05:00I am sorry you are going through this hassle. I ha...I am sorry you are going through this hassle. I have learned that we need to be our cats' health advocate because they obviously can't speak for themselves. ITA with the comments above--and am glad you stood up for yourself (and Jack) and asked questions. (This post is also scaring me a little, since my vet is soon leaving the practice. . .)Renehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10832643923158222775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3859669.post-81554412279519831012013-12-18T08:52:55.311-05:002013-12-18T08:52:55.311-05:00Oh, I get this. My vet literally eppeared out of n...Oh, I get this. My vet literally eppeared out of nowhere and bought the practice I had been going to, and we had a talk early on about my internet sources (he isn't a fan, but admits I usually know the latest before he does). When I lost my access to PubMed and the veterinary journals, he actually suggested I could probably sneak into the library of the nearest veterinary school, where he studied, so we have an understanding, of a sort. Some vets, like some human doctors, are too likely to listen to the pharma sales reps and adopt things that they think are "easier" -- either easier for client compliance, or easier for themselves. If a vet can't stand being questioned, well, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. A subset of pet owners are becoming more and more educated,and they won't take the same old answers any more. <br /><br />About Jack's fat lip... that's the one thing we imagine could be self-inflicted, if he was trying to escape a cage. Newton has beaten himself up pretty badly on his own carrier door a few times.Cats Herd Youhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15571176442884334134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3859669.post-77542233010754432202013-12-18T07:32:21.041-05:002013-12-18T07:32:21.041-05:00I totally get this post, too. One of the local vet...I totally get this post, too. One of the local vets got offended when I told him that I want him to get the cat out of the carrier before sticking a needle in her and after that he refused to treat her! He sent me out of his office! We should not be afraid to stick for our kitties and educate those who should know more than we do. Sandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09725590801507442094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3859669.post-27740424874819613552013-12-18T06:59:53.433-05:002013-12-18T06:59:53.433-05:00I totally get this post. I have been going to the...I totally get this post. I have been going to the same vet for the last 13 years because the senior vet understands that I will do my research on the Internet and ask him questions. Sadly he is rarely at the clinic now and the new vets are intimidated by me, apparently. I am now shopping around for a vet who is knowledgeable, willing to discuss issues with me and most certainly not intimidated by a client who doesn't accept everything they tell me without question. The Furries of Whisppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16732972758512775677noreply@blogger.com